Comments on: Bling Bling gem management http://terrbear.org/?p=233 ruby! rails! kids! oh my! ... and other fun from terry heath Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:32:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: grosser http://terrbear.org/?p=233&cpage=1#comment-937 grosser Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:18:24 +0000 http://terrbear.org/?p=233#comment-937 hmm its the right direction, but e.g. supporting bundler like Gemfile format would be a better choice imo(or supporting rails config.gem format...), also rails 2.3 instructions are missing and it will not notify you when you are using a gem that was not listed in the bling.yml hmm its the right direction, but e.g. supporting bundler like Gemfile format would be a better choice imo(or supporting rails config.gem format…), also rails 2.3 instructions are missing and it will not notify you when you are using a gem that was not listed in the bling.yml

]]> By: grosser http://terrbear.org/?p=233&cpage=1#comment-936 grosser Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:53:17 +0000 http://terrbear.org/?p=233#comment-936 Thats exactly what i need, also had the same problems with bundler, just too complicated. Great work! Thats exactly what i need, also had the same problems with bundler, just too complicated. Great work!

]]> By: Tim http://terrbear.org/?p=233&cpage=1#comment-935 Tim Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:15:24 +0000 http://terrbear.org/?p=233#comment-935 Besides, the project name is awesome. Besides, the project name is awesome.

]]> By: Tim http://terrbear.org/?p=233&cpage=1#comment-934 Tim Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:14:43 +0000 http://terrbear.org/?p=233#comment-934 Oh good grief, flame a guy for writing a piece of software that is useful to him (because something else isn't yet) and bloging. Isn't that the whole point of "community"? Oh good grief, flame a guy for writing a piece of software that is useful to him (because something else isn’t yet) and bloging. Isn’t that the whole point of “community”?

]]> By: Chad Woolley http://terrbear.org/?p=233&cpage=1#comment-930 Chad Woolley Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:04:29 +0000 http://terrbear.org/?p=233#comment-930 "Bundler is solving a lot of problems I haven't run into" Exactly. Problems that you won't even encounter until you unshelve an app months or years down the road, and find out that the world has moved on and it is impossible to get your dependencies into a working state (they may not even exist if the author has deleted them from Gemcutter willy-nilly). If you have never encountered that problem, you won't really appreciate that Bundler solves it for you. --Chad “Bundler is solving a lot of problems I haven’t run into”

Exactly. Problems that you won’t even encounter until you unshelve an app months or years down the road, and find out that the world has moved on and it is impossible to get your dependencies into a working state (they may not even exist if the author has deleted them from Gemcutter willy-nilly). If you have never encountered that problem, you won’t really appreciate that Bundler solves it for you.

–Chad

]]> By: terry http://terrbear.org/?p=233&cpage=1#comment-927 terry Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:13:15 +0000 http://terrbear.org/?p=233#comment-927 @Carl When Mongo and RSpec and Nokogiri work easily with Bundler, I'll be pretty happy to work with it again. I imagine as everyone hammers out Rails3 apps and it approaches non-beta, and Bundler hits 1.0, things might be significantly better. By calling Bling and geminstaller "lightweight," it could be interpreted as viewing Bundler as "bloated," (though I never wrote that) but really I just think that Bundler is solving a lot of problems I haven't run into. @Carl

When Mongo and RSpec and Nokogiri work easily with Bundler, I’ll be pretty happy to work with it again. I imagine as everyone hammers out Rails3 apps and it approaches non-beta, and Bundler hits 1.0, things might be significantly better.

By calling Bling and geminstaller “lightweight,” it could be interpreted as viewing Bundler as “bloated,” (though I never wrote that) but really I just think that Bundler is solving a lot of problems I haven’t run into.

]]> By: Carl Lerche http://terrbear.org/?p=233&cpage=1#comment-926 Carl Lerche Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:42:49 +0000 http://terrbear.org/?p=233#comment-926 Hey, So, have you at least submitted issues regarding your pains or asked us for help in #carlhuda on freenode? I can sympathize with you about pains using it right now as it still has not hit a stable release, but throwing out words like "bloated", making an angry blog post, and rewriting a tool that the original author has already happily left in the dust in favor of bundler seems a bit rash. If you are still interested in giving bundler a shot, please let us know in #carlhuda what bugs you are hitting and we'll fix them within a day or so. We actually are really quick with bug fixes, and listen to everybody that stops by with questions / problems. Carl Hey,

So, have you at least submitted issues regarding your pains or asked us for help in #carlhuda on freenode? I can sympathize with you about pains using it right now as it still has not hit a stable release, but throwing out words like “bloated”, making an angry blog post, and rewriting a tool that the original author has already happily left in the dust in favor of bundler seems a bit rash.

If you are still interested in giving bundler a shot, please let us know in #carlhuda what bugs you are hitting and we’ll fix them within a day or so. We actually are really quick with bug fixes, and listen to everybody that stops by with questions / problems.

Carl

]]> By: terry http://terrbear.org/?p=233&cpage=1#comment-925 terry Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:59:25 +0000 http://terrbear.org/?p=233#comment-925 @Josh Whoah, awesome. Looks like geminstaller does exactly what I need and is more stable than what I've put up. Thanks! @Josh
Whoah, awesome. Looks like geminstaller does exactly what I need and is more stable than what I’ve put up.

Thanks!

]]> By: josh susser http://terrbear.org/?p=233&cpage=1#comment-924 josh susser Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:28:52 +0000 http://terrbear.org/?p=233#comment-924 Sounds like you have pretty much duplicated the functionality of Chad Woolley's geminstaller. Yay for NIH DIY. If you need something that just works until Bundler is stable enough, I'd say use geminstaller. We already have at least five gem packaging/installing things that mostly do the same thing. I don't think we need another, and I'd guess your time would be better spent creating new value rather than reinventing the wheel. Sounds like you have pretty much duplicated the functionality of Chad Woolley’s geminstaller. Yay for NIH DIY. If you need something that just works until Bundler is stable enough, I’d say use geminstaller. We already have at least five gem packaging/installing things that mostly do the same thing. I don’t think we need another, and I’d guess your time would be better spent creating new value rather than reinventing the wheel.

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